UFO whistleblower gives evidence to US congress: 'What I witnessed was very disturbing'

David Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Office representative on the Defense Department's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, gives an opening statement during House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing on "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" at the U.S. Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 26, 2023. ​

David Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Office representative on the Defense Department's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, gives an opening statement during a House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing

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Sam Montgomery

By Sam Montgomery


Published: 27/07/2023

- 09:51

Updated: 27/07/2023

- 10:11

The former intelligence officer went on record over 'non-human biologics' found at a crash sites

A former US intelligence officer appeared before a congressional hearing on Wednesday, giving evidence on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).

Retired Major David Grusch delivered testimony to a House Oversight committee, suggesting the US government is in possession of non-human vehicles and alien bodies.


In a moment of high theatre at Rayburn House Office Building, a sceptical US Republican Eric Burlison cross examined the UFO whistleblower.

Grusch said in the recorded hearing: “I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access.”

Ryan Graves, executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, David Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Office representative on the Defense Department's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, and retired Navy Commander David Fravor attend House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing on "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" at the U.S. Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 26, 2023.

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The former intelligence officer claimed to be aware of officials who recovered “nonhuman” aircraft, some of which contained “biologics” that were collected for study.

Burlison asked Grusch: “At one point you had said that there has been harmful activity, or aggressive activity. Has any of the activity been aggressive, been hostile, in your reports?”

Grusch, who led the analysis of UAPs within a Department of Defense agency, replied: “I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured.”

Burlison pushed: “By UAPs or by people within the federal government?”

“Both,” Grusch responded.

\u200bDavid Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Office representative on the Defense Department's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, testifies during House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing on "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" at the U.S. Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 26, 2023.

David Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Office representative on the Defense Department's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, testifies during House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing on "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" at the U.S. Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 26, 2023.

Reuters/Elizabeth Frantz

Burlison then sought clarification, saying: “OK, so there has been activity by alien or non-human technology and or beings that has cause harm to humans?”

Grusch did not deny it and instead said: “I can’t get into the specifics in an open environment but at least the activity that I personally witnessed, and I have to be careful because they tell you to never acknowledge tradecraft.

“What I personally witnessed, myself and my wife, was very disturbing.”

Burlison, who has been a US representative from Missouri's 7th congressional district since 2023, pressed Grusch on what he had seen first hand.

Ryan Graves, executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, David Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Office representative on the Defense Department's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, and retired Navy Commander David Fravor are sworn in during House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing on "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" at the U.S. Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 26, 2023.

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He asked bluntly: “Have you seen the spacecraft?”

Grusch cagily replied: “I have to be careful to describe what I’ve seen firsthand, and not in this environment, but I could answer that question behind closed doors.”

The former intelligence officer then conceded that he had not seen any of the alien bodies with his own eyes.

During the subcommittee hearing, Grusch alleged that people had been “harmed or injured” while attempting to cover-up information on alien life.

Former Navy Commander David Fravore also gave evidence on a UAP sighting during a training mission in 2004.

Ryan Graves, executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace, gives an opening statement during House Oversight & Accountability Committee's National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee's hearing on "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" at the U.S. Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., July 26, 2023.

Reuters/Elizabeth Frantz

Another witness, retired pilot Ryan Graves, claimed to gave seen UAPs “every day for at least a couple years” off the Atlantic coast.

Graves has since set up the non-profit Americans for Safe Aerospace.

As the hearing concluded, Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-WI, the chair of the House subcommittee on national security, the border and foreign affairs, indicated appetitie for future UAP transparency legislation.

Grothman said: “Obviously, I think several of us are going to look forward to getting some answers in a more confidential setting.

“I assume some legislation will come out of this.”

Earlier this month, a bipartisan group of senators, spearheaded by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, put forward an amendment seeking to declassify government records related to UFOs and UAPs.

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